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INTRODUCTION:

There was little change with the 1985-86 timetable. The direct service from Hull and Leeds remained, the two portions combined at Sheffield which included class 08 haulage during the shunting move! There was no balancing service from Brighton for this, only an evening departure for Derby.  The outward service for Leeds and Hull originated from Paddington at 0650. A WTT for the Chesterfield to Birmingham area threw up the fact the 0602 Derby to Brighton was one of the few trains to call at Wilnecote and Water Orton.


TIMETABLE and ROUTE:

The overnight service to Gatwick from Manchester re-introduced last year continued as previously on a Friday and Saturday night. The Friday night service was actually a Holidaymaker service to Poole that ran via the Thames Valley then via Acton and Willesden were a Brighton driver ( and conductor?) joined the train to take it southwards. I'm sure there was also an unadvertised stop at Hove for another crew change. The Sunday night service ran via the West Coast mainline....I think.

 

You may have noticed that the Sunday morning arrival at Gatwick 1O52 doesn't  balance with the departures. An acquired Working Timetable shows that this stock formed 5M52 a 06+40 Gatwick Airport to Euston Down Carriage sidings ECS move.

 

13th May 1985 to 11th May 1986

M-F

SO

M-S

M-F

SO

SUN

SUN

SUN

Headcode

1M50

1M50

1M07

1M41

1M41

1M00

1M15

1M41

Notes

B

B

B

B

B

 

 

 

Timing load

D315/

E???

D315/

E???

D315/

E???

D315

D315

D315/

E???

D315+

D315

Brighton

0850

0855

1255

1848

1848

1024A

 

 

Gatwick

09u17

0922

1322

1912

1912

1052

1444

1931

East Croydon

0939

0940

13u40

1933

1933

1110

1509

1953

Reading

1045

1045

1440

2034

2033

1220

1622

2046

Oxford

1115

1115

1510

2106

2106

1255

1653

2120

Banbury

1139

1139

1536

2132

2132

1324

1722

2146

Leamington Spa

1158

1158

1555

2151

2151

1348

1742

2205

Coventry

1215

1215

1612

2208

2208

1408

1801

2222

Birmingham International

1227

1227

1624

2224

2224

1420

1814

2235

Birmingham New Street arr

1245

1245

1642

2241

2242

1442

1835

2253

Birmingham New Street dep

1259

1259

1656

2255

2246

1446

1847

2305

Sandwell & Dudley

 

 

1704

 

 

1455

 

 

Wolverhampton

1315

1315

1714

 

2313

1506

1903

 

Stafford

1331

1331

1730

 

 

1539

1919

 

Stoke

1352

1352

1753

 

 

 

1948

 

Macclesfield

1413

1413

1813

 

 

 

2008

 

Crewe

 

 

 

 

 

1613

 

 

Stockport

14s29

14s29

18s30

 

 

 

20s29

 

Manchester Piccadilly

1437

1437

1838

 

 

 

2038

 

Runcorn

 

 

 

 

 

1638

 

 

Liverpool Lime Street

 

 

 

 

 

1704

 

 

Tamworth

 

 

 

2312

 

 

 

2323

Burton on Trent

 

 

 

2326

 

 

 

2335

Derby

 

 

 

2348

 

 

 

2357

A = until 29th September 1985.

B = Buffet.

+ = Vacuum braked set, maybe a typo in the WTT as inwards service is not marked VB.

 

 

13th May 1985 to 11th May 1986

M-S

M-S

M-S

FO

SO

SUN

SUN

SUN

Headcode

1O62

1O74

1O86

1O52

1O52

1O62

 1O74

1O86

Notes

B

B

BC

PA

D

 

 

 

Timing load

D315

 

E???/

D315

D315

 

E???/

D350

E???/

D455+

D350

E???/

D315

E???/

D315

Leeds

 

 

1400

 

 

 

 

 

Wakefield Westgate

 

 

1416

 

 

 

 

 

Hull

 

 

1324

 

 

 

 

 

Brough

 

 

1337

 

 

 

 

 

Goole

 

 

1352

 

 

 

 

 

Thorne North

 

 

1400

 

 

 

 

 

Doncaster

 

 

1417

 

 

 

 

 

Sheffield

 

 

1504

 

 

 

 

 

Derby

0602

 

1550

 

 

 

 

 

Burton On Trent

0616

 

1604

 

 

 

 

 

Tamworth

0629

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wilnecote

0633

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Water Orton

0646

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Liverpool Lime Street

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1746

Runcorn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1803

Manchester Piccadilly

 

0958

 

2230

2301

 

1140

 

Stockport

 

09u06

 

22u38

23u09

 

1149

 

Crewe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1828

Macclesfield

 

1019

 

2352

2323

 

1209

 

Stoke

 

1039

 

2312

2348

 

1235

 

Stafford

 

1059

 

2335

0029

 

1314

1849

Wolverhampton

 

1118

 

2357

0056

0905

1342

1908

Sandwell and Dudley

 

 

 

0007

 

0915

1352

1918

Birmingham New Street arr

0701

1139

1640

0019

0122

0925

1412

1930

Birmingham New Street dep

0711

1144

1650

0055

0130

0927

1416

1935

Birmingham International

0722

1153

1702

 

 

0938

1427

1944

Coventry

0734

1203

1714

0115

0147

0952

1439

1955

Leamington Spa

0750

1228

1730

 

 

1013

1501

2020

Banbury

0815

1252

1755

 

 

1034

1521

2044

Oxford

0842

1321

1824

0219

 

1121

1609

2115

Reading

0911

1352

1849

0249

 

1158

1643

2148

East Croydon

1009

1457

1947

 

0421

13s21

17s50

2248

Gatwick

1027

1517

2005

0413

0440

1340

1810

2310

Brighton

1100

1545

2035

 

 

 

 

2337

A = Until 27th September 1985.

B = Buffet.

C = 1J01 from Hull portions attach at Sheffield.

D = until 28th September 1985.

P = to Poole calling at Havant, Southampton and Bournemouth.

+ = Vacuum braked set

 


LOCOMOTIVES:

The usual diet of class 47/4's was interrupted for a week or more in June with class 45's once again making a bid for freedom from the Midlands. I have several undated photos from 1984 of peaks on the Brighton to Derby / Wolverhampton  service.....I might have the year wrong.....if you know different please let me know. Email address is on the home page.

The locomotive change appears to have been split between New Street and Coventry.


STOCK:

Working timetables for the year show all the trains booked for load D315 air braked load that's a 9 cars.

The only exceptions to this are 1O52: 2230 FO Manchester to Poole which shows a D350 timing load, thats 10 cars maximum and also 1O52 2301 SO Manchester to Gatwick service which shows a timing load of D455 and vacuum braked stock.


PHOTOS:

45110 passes through Clapham Junction on 1M41 the 1848 Brighton to Derby service, once again the London Midland managed a week or more of supplying "Peaks" on the 0958 from Manchester, south of New Street and the return service.

Saltley crew need I say more!

Photo taken 13th June 1985.

Photographer Paul Winter.

Used with permission.

45130 passes through Clapham Junction with 1O74 the 0958 Manchester Piccadilly to Brighton.

Photo taken 19th June 1985.

 Photographer Kevin Law.

Used with permission.

Carriage label for the 0958 Manchester Piccadilly to Brighton service.

Authors collection.

Carriage label for the 1400 Leeds to Brighton service.

Authors collection.

Later the same day 45130 pauses at East Croydon while working

1M41 the 1848 Brighton to Derby.  During the station stop, mail and parcels are loaded.

Photo taken 19th June 1985.

 Photographer Graham Walker.

Used with permission.

Later still in it's journey 45130 is captured at Reading with

1M41 the 1848 Brighton to Derby.

Photo taken 19th June 1985.

Photographer Graham Walker.

Used with permission.

Three days later 45122 is seen here at Brighton with

 1M41 the SO 1848 to Wolverhampton.

Photo taken 22nd June 1985.

Photographer Mike Hodge.

Used with permission.

47560 'Tamar' passes the remains of Coulsdon North station

 with 1O62 the 0602 Derby to Brighton.

Photo taken Friday 28th June 1985.

Photographer Graham Walker.

Used with permission.

47144 is on the single line from Leamington to Coventry at Gibbet Hill with 1M50, the 0850 Brighton to Manchester Piccadilly service.

Photo taken 1st July 1985.

Photographer Mike Hollick.

Used with permission.

 47626 arrives at Brighton with 1O62 the 0602 ex Derby

Photo taken 9th July 1985.

Photographer Dennis Taylor.

Used with permission.

After taking the stock off 1O62 into Top Yard at Brighton 09016 returns the coaches to the station to form 1M07 the 1255 to Manchester Piccadilly

Photo taken 9th July 1985.

Photographer Dennis Taylor.

Used with permission.

47537 takes the down main at Kensington Olympia as it heads north with 1M50 the 0850 Brighton to Manchester Piccadilly service. Looks like the VSOE Pullman cars in the platform.

Photo taken 23rd August 1985.

www.the-transport-photo-interchange.co.uk

Used with permission.

47588 takes the up main at Kensington Olympia as it heads south with 1O74 the 0958 Manchester to Brighton service

Photo taken 23rd August 1985.

www.the-transport-photo-interchange.co.uk

Used with permission.

Steam heat 47162 is seen here at Reading working

1M07: 1255 Brighton-Manchester Piccadilly.

Photo taken 30th August 1985.

Photographer Mark Jamieson.

Used with permission.

45135 '3rd Carabiner' waits at Hull to depart with 1J01 the 1324 to Brighton. This service attaches at Sheffield to the 1400 ex Leeds. For some reason the train is formed of Mk1's on this day instead of the usual Mk2's does anyone know why?

Photographer Colin J Marsden / Authors collection.

Slide dated 18th January 1986.

With snow on the ground 47474 waits to depart Gatwick with

1M50, the 0850 Brighton to Manchester Piccadilly service. Photographer unknown / Authors collection.

Slide dated February 1986.

47547 comes off the West London line extension at

 Clapham Junction with 1O74 the 0958 Manchester Piccadilly

to Brighton service.

Photographer Carl Watson.

Used with permission.

Photo taken 28th February 1986

47403 'The Geordie' has just arrived at Brighton after working 1O74 the 0958 from Manchester Piccadilly.

Photo taken 3rd April 1986

Photographer Brian Daniels.

Used with permission.

Heading south at Clay Cross, Chesterfield is 31437 with what is probably 1O86 the 1400 Leeds / 1324 Hull to Brighton service. 

If anyone can confirm this one way or the other please let me know.

Photographer unknown / Authors collection.

Slide dated 19th April 1986.

 

South Moreton and 47559 'Sir Joshua Reynolds' heads south with 1O74 the 0958 Manchester to Brighton.

Photo taken 26th April 1986.

Photographer Bob Foster.

Used with permission.

 

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